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SERIOUS QUESTIONS

I am sure there are those that would not have bothered answering this e-mail, and just labeled it as one from a rebellious nit-picking accuser. I did not see ANY rebellion in this person, but an honest sincere individual that was asking questions that disturbed me greatly.

Why did they disturb me??? Because we may not, as teachers, be communicating correctly. We are prone to be so strong on what we see, that we over balance the teaching so that anyone not accepting it may feel as Karie feels in her e-mail. Are we drawing people out, or chasing people away??? Do we really want to make people who are not in our realm of Truth feel like that they are NOT "saved", and know NOT the Savior??? Is such inference "Love" in action, or THE ACCUSER??? Does it cause unity, or DISunity???

This is a key issue people. Listen to her, and learn, not just from her questions, but for the reason she is even asking them. There are literally THOUSANDS like her, and we must have the burden to reach these people to let them know why they feel as they do, and are going through what they are going through.

I thank Karie much for giving me permission to publish her e-mail. Many would not have done so.

Hi, my name is Karie Riley. I have been reading several of your articles lately. I am not quite sure where to start with my questions. If I seem to jump around, please forgive me and do the best you can with any answers if you choose to reply.

I am beginning to understand the idea of being the House of Israel. That is not the first time I have heard that. But it is the first time that I have heard anyone talk about the "Church" in this country the way you have.

I have noticed that you say a lot about what is wrong and support your position with scripture, but I can't remember if I have read where you have given advice as to "how" to come out of her (the existing church). Ok, so leave the Church and then do what? I am not being flippant, but you don't give any direction for people to go in your articles. And I would like to ask, do I discount every church because they say Jesus instead of Yahshua?

I believe that I just read that you believe the Jesus that people
are accepting into their hearts as Savior is an impostor, is that correct? So are you sure that every person that has done this has an impostor savior and is doomed? I guess that I would fall into this category.

As a small child in a Baptist Church I desired to know Jesus. I was Baptized and believed in Jesus. But because it was in a Church that said Jesus and God instead of the names you say, my life inspite of my relationship with Him is a lie? I can now discount the sins I have been convicted of and confessed? I can discount the voice of the one who saved me from drugs, sex and whatever else? I can discount the voice who brings scripture to memory when I talk about the "wrong" Jesus to the unsaved? I can discount the joy and tears and longing I had as a child to walk the streets of Jerusalem? I now am supposed to discount the healing my body has had? Why would Satan do this, because I use the wrong name?

I can understand you saying some churches because of obvious things, name it and claim it groups, the hissing, laughing group....but all ?

I have thought about the name's of God. He is who He is regardless of what I call Him. It is a matter of Language for me. My name in Spanish is Catrina. But that doesn't make me someone else when I visit that country. All those people that met me, know me, the person, the one with the soul and spirit. Karie or Catrina, it is still me.

Ok, come out of her. I got that part, sort of. Then there is the
flee to Zion, is that right? I don't think that I got from your one article that we were to go to Israel, because of how you worded it. Right now I can't remember exactly how you worded it. I have read so much and am having trouble back tracking to reread your stuff. I believe it was in the article talking about the Manifest Sons? Who are they and so on.

I could be wrong, sorry.

I could ask a lot more but I'll stop here.

Sincerely,
Karie Riley
Krjrsrfam@aol.com

What follows is my answer to her. I do not publish this so much as that someone might learn from my answers, but more of the attitude we must acquire, not only in our teaching, but in our consideration of others, and where they might presently be in our Savior.

Many have only begun their trek out of Babylon. We must become aware of what mental patterns they are in, and speak accordingly. Remember, we all were at the stage Karie is, and in the eyes of Yahweh, WE STILL ARE!!!

Karie;

I really apologize for taking so long to come back to you. I usually answer immediately. This time I had too much on my mind to give your e-mail descent thought. Your questions are excellent / legitimate, and are causing me to do some re-thinking as to how I present my material. I think most of your questions would be answered as you read the whole site. However, if I were communicating properly in the first place, you probably would not even come up with your questions. To re-write to correct this might be quite an undertaking, so I probably will not get to it today. tee hee

Ok, so leave the Church and then do what? I am not being flippant, but you don't give any direction for people to go in your articles.

I have taken nothing as "flippant", but questions from a sincere individual.

We are in a very serious day. Far more serious than people realize. Many have left off with going to a church because they cannot take what is happening in them any more. I am trying to let them know they have done the right thing. These "churches" are doing more to blind the people than bring them into the Truth. This is fact, even though it might be tough to accept.

This does not mean that people are not receiving help in them. Babylon is a golden cup in the hand of Yahweh. He will even speak out of a donkey to get His message through to a person.

I have attended more different churches than most ten people combined. I learned every place that I went. I just got tired of climbing through the garbage to find a morsel worth eating.

We are coming to a new day. Yahweh is opening up Truths that we have not before seen. We will NOT get these in the established "churches", for that is NOT where He is revealing them. In my OPINION, He has turned the most of it over to Jezebel, and if we think they are bad today, give it a year or two more. It will all wax worse and worse, until NO sincere person will be able to enter ANY of them.

When I come upon a person who is receiving help in a "church", I do not upset them by telling them to get out. I am not the one who has the nail holes in His hands. He has done much with me while attending a "church", and I do not want to interrupt what He is doing with someone else.

However, we are entering a new day. A line will be drawn. What we see today as "Christianity" is going to grow worse, and worse. I have already witnessed much falling away in the last twenty years. The help I got in some places I attended yesterday would not be received today. We are coming to the day, if not already in it, when Yah is going to say (and certainly not just me in myself saying it) COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE!!! We must answer that call, and in order to answer, we must know what it is we are to come out of, and WHY!!!

The main problem at this time is in the question you ask. Come out to WHERE??? The answer is to a "Dwelling Place of Zion", but at this time, there is no such place. We will not have such until we SEEK HIM FOR IT. i.e. A prophecy concerning the day we are in, Jer 50:

^{4In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the
children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah
together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their
God. 5They shall ask the way to Zion with
their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join
ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be
forgotten. 6My people hath been lost sheep: their
shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned
them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to
hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. 7All that found them
have devoured them:}

Karie, it has taken me THIRTY YEARS to see what I am writing. You do not yet know that what I am saying is correct. I could not expect you to. The days ahead will prove it all correct, at least in general theme, and Yah will bring you out in His designed path. He also prophecies to us that:

^{16And I will bring the blind by
a way that they knew not; I will lead
them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness
light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do
unto them, and not forsake them.}

And I would like to ask, do I discount every church because they say Jesus instead of Yahshua?

No!!! There is much more to it than that. However, this IS a key subject.

I believe that I just read that you believe the Jesus that people are accepting into their hearts as Savior is an impostor, is that correct? So are you sure that every person that has done this has an impostor savior and is doomed? I guess that I would fall into this category.

If this is what you have perceived from what I have written, then I have communicated badly. This is true in many cases. It is the Strong Delusion prophesied. However, it is NOT true in every case, and certainly NOT IN YOURS. The True "Christians" are residing in Babylon, whether they realize it or not. They will have to come out to receive protection from the horror ahead. Some will, some will not, but all are saved that truly walk with Christ.

There are three sections to the temple. The "Outer Court" Christians WILL go through martyrdom during the Great Tribulation. i.e.:

^{9After
this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number,
of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before
the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms
in their hands; 10And cried with a loud voice, saying,
Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about
the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their
faces, and worshipped God, 12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and
wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be
unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders
answered, saying unto me, What are these which are
arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14And I said
unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These
are they which came out of great tribulation, and have
washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and
night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell
among them. 16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17For the Lamb
which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead
them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all
tears from their eyes.}

Some are called to hear now, some later, and some will NEVER HEAR!!! I am after the ones that will HEAR NOW!!!

As a small child in a Baptist Church I desired to know Jesus. I was Baptized and believed in Jesus. But because it was in a Church that said Jesus and God instead of the names you say, my life in spite of my relationship with Him is a lie? I can now discount the sins I have been convicted of and confessed.? I can discount the voice of the one who saved me from drugs, sex and whatever else? I can discount the voice who brings scripture to memory when I talk about the "wrong" Jesus to the unsaved? I can discount the joy and tears and longing I had as a child to walk the
streets of Jerusalem? I now am supposed to discount the healing my body has
had? Why would Satan do this, because I use the wrong name.?

There are those that would say that we are NOT saved if we have used the wrong name. This is LUDICROUS!!! I have tried to get through to such to no avail. I certainly do NOT want to appear to people in this Light. I was saved at an early age, walked with Him and received much Truth from Him for many years before I knew the correct names. So did most of the ones who now teach on the subject. And, I believe there is even MORE to be revealed about them, so we should not get cemented into ANY position in their regard.

This has been so for many people for many years of "Church History". What??? No one has come to Yahshua who has not known His True Name??? Hardly. It is absolute demagoguery to make anyone so think. Oh, may I not be guilty of such. I want NO ONE to feel that they are "NOT saved" who truly walk with Yahshua. That is not my point. It IS my point that we are living in the land of deception, the realm of the Great Whore, and we who truly believe are and walk with Him are being commanded to "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE"!!! This IS what we are to submit to, and by that submission, learn of what it is that we are to come out.

These for you, are TRUE experiences with Christ. Never let the enemy rob them from you. Not from the spirit realm, or through some stupid man. Just get it all in proper perspective.

How many have tried to make me feel that I had not been properly saved down through the years, beginning with those that demanded that I "speak in other tongues", for that was the ONLY evidence that we are truly saved. What demagoguery. I quickly learned to throw such down with punitive action from within toward the "Accuser", while trying to be patient with the spiritual pride of the ignoramus I was fellowshipping with. (chuckle chuckle)

Yahweh has winked at our ignorance up to this point. He is calling to those of His people that will hear, and you are certainly ONE OF HIS PEOPLE!!! We are living in the land of error, and MUST COME OUT, and in that coming out, we will receive much correction. We must receive the Love for the Truth to receive that correction.

I have thought about the name's of God. He is who He is regardless of
what I call Him. It is a matter of Language for me. My name in Spanish is
Catrina. But that doesn't make me someone else when I visit that country.
All those people that met me, know me, the person, the one with the soul and spirit. Karie or Catrina, it is still me.

Exactly. I have used this very point with those that teach on the Names Issue. My name in Spanish is Lorenzo. I will answer to that name if they so choose to use it. However, I prefer Larry.

Then, something to think about, there is NO LEGAL GROUND for me in the name Lorenzo, but only in Larry, for that is my name legally. I cannot sign any legal paper under the name Lorenzo, nor can anything legal be addressed to me in that name.

The original Apostles did NOT preach in, cast out devils in, or work miracles in, the name of "Jesus". Neither would they in THIS day. So, there is something here that we need to learn. The scripture is oh so clear on the importance of Yah's Name, and He is mercifully revealing that importance.

You might check out the links I have under "The Names of Yahweh and Yahshua" and Why I Use Them. They may be a bit out of balance in their declarations, but you will sure enough learn their importance.

Then there is the flee to Zion, is that right? I don't think that I got from your one article that we were to go to Israel, because of how you worded it.

You are correct. We will not be taken back to the Promised Land until His return. The first "Dwelling Place of Zion" will be established in this nation. (Long teaching) They, in my mind, will spread across the earth.

I could be wrong, sorry.

Your questions, and your thinking is NOT WRONG!!! They resemble my own as I kept coming into new Truth. When I would come to something I had not heard before, I was as much interested in trying to disprove the question, as to proving it. I found that error will crumble under the blow of a hammer, while the Truth will remain unmarred. How many things I had to go to the cross over so that my pride filled all knowing ego would die and release me into that which was found to be Truth. How many Truths that I have come into for which I had a strong aversion for before accepting it. The carnal mind is HOSTILE TO THE TRUTH, and I found this out THROUGH EXPERIENCE!!!

I could ask a lot more but I'll stop here.

Hallelujah. At least you have let me off the hook a little bit. Hardeharhar. I hope that I have answered sufficiently for what you have asked.

Karie, I would like to use this on my Editorial page for two reasons, if you could be so kind as to give me such permission . One, if you have such questions, so do many others, only they will not have the courage to ask them. This would minister to them much. Secondly, EVERY TEACHER needs to understand that they need to communicate in such a way, that they do NOT make ANYONE who IS truly "saved" feel like they are not. This is condemnation FROM THE ACCUSER!!! We all need to make sure that the enemy is NOT getting into our writing to make this inference. Please let me publish this. Your questions are excellent, legitimate, and would speak to MANY!!!

Larry

Karie also posted to my discussion board. I thought to do this as not only does it give us more insight to Karie, but ourselves also in the struggles of our own walk.

She writes:

The Contradiction, that stood out to me. How does one go through most of their life and be an outsider, even to those who claim Christianity?
I accepted Jesus as a second grader, I don't remember how old I was, but I remember Him. I often felt that is all I had was Him. I just never fit in. It wasn't like I dressed really strange, or was totally weird looking, I just never understood why I was on the outside looking in, always. As a teen I had dreams of going through the Tribulation, my pastor didn't like those. I just passed them off as fearful dreams. I was always seeking to be closer to God. I remember telling someone once that I didn't go to church to meet people, they weren't nice or polite anyway, I went to meet and worship God. How funny to look back and see that about myself.

I have always felt different from the inside out, I just don't want to justify ME by saying I am called. I am afraid to do that, it has been so hard being me. Now I am supposed to believe that there has been a purpose to all this?

I have read your articles, I am a Woman, my mate does not believe as I do, this too has been hard. I have felt for some time that I was going to loose him and a daughter in death during a crisis and I was going to go on fighting... try and explain that to your family. It never seemed to make sense. I'm still not sure of so much, I have repressed a lot of thoughts, or suspicions.

Any way, thanks for letting me talk.
Karie

Here was my reply. May it be of benefit to those who are also seeking to walk closer to their Messiah and King.

Karie;

Yes, there HAS BEEN a purpose for it ALL, not only in your life, but in all our lives.

It is obvious to me that you are a "called one" for this Last Day. Those who are do not understand what has been going on with them most of their life, and think they must be the ones who are "crazy". They are also very alone, as the "called ones" are spread all over creation. In an interview by Jeff Forrester, I state:

Quote:
There are many who are fed up with what is erroneously called "Christianity". They know there is something wrong, but not real clear as to what that wrongness is. These are people scattered all over creation, and mostly think they are the only ones that feel the way that they do.

There are also a number of people with a "Great Calling" upon their life, and KNOW it. Yet, they are isolated and hidden from view. They are frustrated, because their "calling" seems of little value, let alone be that which is bringing forth fruit. Because of that "calling", the enemy has launched viciously upon them, and has worked overtime to keep them suppressed, and oppressed. So much so, that I am sure many of them have at times been brought to the position of wondering if there even IS a "God".

These are the ones with whom I am trying to reach. They need the understanding of what is happening to them, and WHY! I want to see their mourning turned into the joy that they cannot contain that is prophesied for them. And, that by coming not only into this understanding, but also into fellowship with each other.

Everything of Yah is set for an "Appointed Time". There is an "Appointed Time" for this, which I desire. Whether we are in that time, or coming to it, I do not as yet know. I do know that when it begins, Satan, his henchmen, and all of the Kingdom of Darkness are then in serious trouble. They know this, and is why they have fought so viciously against it.

It does appear to me that this day of "loneliness" is coming to an end, and the understanding is being opened for what has been happening to us. Yah has started drawing the ones to my site that I long to reach. This is evidenced by a few of the comments on my "Editorials" Page. You might read them. There will be more posted as I have time to post them. I cannot believe how much is now upon me to get done. It is incredible.

It is very difficult for one who has a mate that does not understand. Why it is like this, I do not know, but I do not much like it. However, my little feeble mind does not fathom the Wisdom of Yahweh. It is He that knows why, and my opinion has NOTHING to do with it.

It could be that your feelings about "losing your family" is just a threat of "The Spirit of Jezebel". I will have a long article on her published within a month or so. She IS the one who threatens us of what will happen if we remain in our walk. Check out where this is coming from, for we do get what we believe for, even if it is the believing of a "Jezebelian Threat". (ie Job: "The thing I feared the most came upon me".)

Larry

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